Honest Post about JYJ’s vs TVXQ act I’s music

This post prompted from a honest comment in JYJ3.
(From a JYJ fan who learned about TVXQ after she knew JYJ.)

I read a lot of JYJ fans who just get to know them as JYJ and learn about TVXQ later on. Most of them cannot connected to TVXQ act I anymore. (Well, some still does.)

My best guess as someone who has observe them from the time they were active as a part of TVXQ…I would say the musical and artistic level of JYJ is far different from TVXQ act 1. All the struggle and freedom that JYJ have tasted over the past 2 years formed and forced them into another level in order to survive in the industry. That is JYJ greatest advancement and I think that’s why many JYJ fans found them appealing and so special, sometimes even more than TVXQ act I.

JYJ’s songs have it all in term of sincerity and emotion. You can feel that they did throw their feeling into their songs, especially when they performing live on stage, singing their own-composed/written song.

Frankly, I used to doubt whether JYJ could success in term of harmonizing and performing as much as TVXQ act I level. I thought that, well, never mind…JYJ is JYJ, no way that they would be able to harmonized as nice as when they had 5 voices together.

But they did prove me wrong.

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[Fanaccount] 16 Days of Kim Jaejoong, 8 Days of Kim Junsu, 6 Days of Park Yuchun…in Thailand [Part2]

WARNING: If you are some OT5, or a fan who said you would like to see YH and CM sing “In Heaven” and want to shout “DBSK” at “JYJ” concert or see nothing wrong doing so. Please do not read this fanaccount.

(I do love some OT5 fans, many of them, especially in Thailand are the real OT5 who want to support 5 members as JYJ and DBSK and they know what they should do in JYJ concert. Just support them as JYJ. I feel so grateful to these OT5 fans. Really.)

Since there are lots of fanaccount out there that talked about the detail of concert, I would mostly write about my own feeling toward this concert…some might be too critical for some fans.
Let’s go to my memories of 2 days JYJ world Tour Concert in Bangkok
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[Fanaccount] 16 Days of Kim Jaejoong, 8 Days of Kim Junsu, 6 Days of Park Yuchun…in Thailand [Part1]

PART1: BEFORE CONCERT

If someone told me at the beginning of March that we would be able to host these 3 guys in Thailand more than 4 days, I would not believe them.

We knew that JYJ would have 2 rounds concert in Bangkok but we didn’t know that they would stay here so long…long enough to make me feel as if they are living here for real.
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To some YunJae shipper…

Please Note: NOT ALL YJ FANS ARE LIKE THIS. I WOULD DENOUNCE ONLY PEOPLE WHO DON’T CARE ABOUT JJ AND YH AND DID SOME DISRESPECTFUL BEHAVIOUR.

AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT THESE BEHAVIOUR DID NOT BELONG TO MAJORITY OF THAI FANS. JUST SOME OF THEM

PLEASE LEAVE POLITE WORDS, NO CURSING HERE

I just got to read some YunJae stan opinion about this vid.

“Shy boy, JJ !! when cass shouted ‘Yunho'”

And I’m done.

I was there in the studio that day. I don’t think international fans would understand what really happened that some YJ stan has destroyed Jaejoong’s reputation in Thailand.

To be honest, I don’t know and don’t care whether JJ is homosexual or YJ is real or not but some of YJ stans were very impolite. Things in the clip is only a part of what happened that day. Before the recording, some of YJ stan called JJ “Yunho’s wife” and shouted that to the outsider who is national TV program host. Some of YJ stan answered the host question about JJ last name as “Jung Jaejoong”. They even showed the host ps-ed picture of YunJae kiss. The host was so confused. (These happened before the real filming and JJ was not there yet.) And right now, the rumour that JJ is gay spreading among Thai entertainment business entity. (Edit: Only the part about rumour spreading among Thai entertainment business circle that I have no prove because it’s just spreading by personal talk. So let’s not exaggarate it. Other than that, people can try to ask fans who waited at the studio since 9am to see whether it really happened.)

Good job.

Can anyone tell me that this could count as the behaviour of those who said they love JJ?

Apparently, that’s the behaviour of the one who only love themselves and want people to satisfy their own fantasy.
(By this, I don’t say every YJ fans are alike…some of them like YJ a lot but they know when and where they should admire YJ in the right way.)

You might say, what’s wrong about being a homosexual? Please open your eyes to the reality…Both JJ and YH are called “public figure”. Some narrow-minded people still don’t except the homosexual and even become anti. Yes, you might want to prove that YJ is real BUT please be respectful to them when they are not only among fans. They also have their own reputation to keep. They are singers as profession, not just 2 unknown people.

Even if they are real, do you really thing it’s a fan responsibility to announce it to the whole world? Sorry, and even when YJ said that in couple talks that they didn’t like rumours like this, some of you still ignore that phrase as if they didn’t say it anyway.

One thing I wonder, why most of YJ stan don’t even dare to shout JJ name in front of YH? I hardly see any vid where YJ fans shout JJ names in front of YH?

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[My own Review] Their Rooms: Music Essay

This writing/ranting suppose to be posted on TheJYJFiles but I feel that it’s a bit inappropriate somehow because basically, it’s my own ranting with many personal feeling. So I will leave it to TheJYJFiles staff whether they would post this.
  
A few months ago, one of my dear friend told me that she still didn’t consider JYJ as artists, mainly because her definition of artist is not only the one who compose/write/sing a song but artist should be able to create art and determine his/her own music direction. So even if Jaejoong, Yoochun, Junsu started compose some songs for DBSK/THSK since a few years ago, they were not counted really an artist, not yet, not at that time.
Somehow I agree with her. There is always argument among K-idol fans, just because you don’t want them to be idol, you want them to be superior but it can’t be denied that at the end, they are still idols. Just because one of a boyband can compose a few songs/ write some lyrics here and there, some fans think they can put their idols up high.

 

I used to be one of those fans…too.
 
Actually, I really love Jaejoong and Yoochun composition before I really get into the fandom. “Kiss Shitaa Mama, Sayonara”  has been one of a few songs I could replay whole day since 2008. It is a utterly heartbreaking but simply beautiful. I didn’t even know that they took part in composition and arrangement so I am pretty sure that my feeling was not biased. I jumped into TVXQ fandom around 2009 when Tohoshinki 4th album: The Secret Code was released. 9095 and Kiss the Baby sky are my favourite tracks before I knew who are the mastermind behind these 2 songs. Strangely, while everyone seems to admire Wasurenaide, I did not appreciate that song much until I heard the Tokyo Dome version. Some ballad composed by them could sound a bit generic to me.
However, during the confusion era of 2009-2010, JYJ composition has become more and more diversified. From a peaceful lovey-dovey piece like “Colors, Melody and Harmony” to sexy naughty R&B dance like “Intoxication“, dark-deep confusing song, including Pop, R&B, Ballad composed by Jaejoong, Yoochun, Junsu in “The Beginning”.
I particularly love “Shelter“. I like the layer that mixed together neatly and it’s probably counted as the first group work of JYJ. Jaejoong and Junse composed this song. (Well, Junsu just went to Jaejoong room while Jaejoong was composing this song and hum a melody that become a hook of that song. lol.) And you got “Theories of Porno” rap from Yoochun.
Still, I didn’t see JYJ true music colors much during the time when they were under SM and AVEX. It was until “The Beginning”, the album that many fans said it’s a flop, at least in term of artistry. Personally, I would rate that album as another so-so album with some particular great track. “Ayyy Girl” has great sound engineering but need better arrangement, plus it does sound unfinished. Most people tend to admire “Empty” more.
From then, I get the perception that JYJ music would become more and more like an experiment, with the strong base – the beautiful melody. It’s quite amazing that JYJ are self-taught composer. Yoochun and Jaejoong don’t even know how to read and write the music notes properly. They composed songs by playing cords and melody that they like, then record it in their harddisk.
 
Before going into the detail, there is one thing that’s irritated me  is that people tend to judge the song/sound mixing by what they heard from youtube.
 I can’t listen to Nine and Fallen Leaves when the full songs were uploaded on youtube for the first time because the uploader didn’t care much about the sound quality. As a result, the production company of this album was bashed because some listener judge the song quality from the first uploader. Some even said it’s the problem when they don’t have SM and AVEX behind their back. – -“)

It’s easy to recognize if you have listened to the original preview in C-Jes.com with your headset. Obviously, YOUTUBE VID =/= CD QUALITY. I ripped mp3 from my own CD with 320bps rate. highest quality on itune. Their songs quality is top-notch, especially the arrangement and sound mixing. Still some room to improve in term of vocal design but so far, this album is very great considering that this is their 1st mile stone of their full self-composition/written/arrangement/produce album.


(Here, finally find someone who upload pretty good sound quality of this song and the rest of the songs on Youtube.)

 

 
There is a reason why many people like a song that is written by the singer himself. When he sings that song, he would be the one who know that song the best, especially when that song straightly comes from the composer own experience. The level of sincerity in each word, each phrase, each sentence would deeply pierce into the listener’s soul. Especially when those singers are already the ones who could sing all emotion within any song out like nobody’s business. That is the exact reason why “Their Rooms: Music Essay” got a lot of admiration from an old soul like me.

 

“Mission”

It’s the real opening song for JYJ. With “JYJ dance now”. This song is composed and arranged by Junsu while the lyric was written by his twin-brother Zuno. (As credit in the book.) Strong beat, fast tempo, (with an ipod headset, you would lose some of its charm as the bass would be too low to capture.)

What I really like about this song is the intro, the key, the engine, the drift, remind me of Fast and the Furious. (This song would suit well as OST.) Also the vocal design for this song, especially the part “You make me feel SHOCKED” and the arrangement of this song are quite interesting. One thing that seems to be noticable as Junsu’s song is the string instrument added in the music part. Somehow, this become a gimmick of Junsu’s fast beat song.
Once you listen to the song, you will feel your heart rate increasing crazily, just like the lyric, beat beat crazily. That’s why I listened to this song to make myself awake while driving or working in the office.
“Nine”

I remember listening to this song from fancam in 27 November 2010 and immediately thought that it would suit the closing ceremony of Asian Games perfectly. (I was watching the ceremony while having dinner that day.) As Jaejoong described, this song reminds me of some old school song with all basic chord. The only problem I have about this song is Jaejoong’s high note at the bridge. It seems a bit shaky and out of the place. That’s exactly why I don’t really enjoy this song much even though the chorus is beautiful with JYJ harmony.

 

“Pierrot”
My favourite track of this album. I love the music since the first time I heard it from the fancam. I even love it more with the meaningful and strong lyric. Plus the arrangement sounds amazing. (Multi-layer arrangement + left to right ear sound mixing + piano base.) If you listen to the chorus closely, you would here Jaejoong super high note harmonize with middle tone Junsu and slightly low tone of Yuchun.

 

“Fallen Leaves”
Apparently, Junsu got a lot influences from musical as you can see from his composition. Fallen Leaves reminds me of “I Can Soar”. Honestly, I like this song at some verse and some verse sound a bit boring to me. (And this is from a ballad sucker.) While I think the song is beautiful the arrangement is a bit weird around the bridge. (When they started to put electronic guitar + heavy drum in the instrument.)
But still, this song is indeed beautiful with their emotional voice, especially Junsu’s voice.

 

“I.D.S.”

Another weird title from Jaejoong. lol.
And someone said that this song sounds like Pierrot which is… of course! Jaejoong tweeted that they were desperately searching for upbeat songs to sing at the concert. Well, after he changed the “supposed-to-be-a-slow-piano-piece” Pierrot to the middle tempo, this guy also splited the song and build another upbeat song based on the same melody. You can here the exact piano notes at the intro of Pierrot starting around 0.48 of this song.
Although Jaejoong didn’t arrange this song by himself, I must praise the arranger who did make the song become more interesting. At first, I opposed to JYJ using autotune so so much but I don’t know why I really enjoy this song which full of autotune. The part that can make me and my friends stop looking at JJ’s intermodulation started at 1:36 and it’s the most obvious autotune part of this song. lol.
And yes, another weird lyric come from a person who has his own world that nobody can really understand. (quoted from Junsu talking about Jaejoong’s composition: 9095)

 

 

“Song without a name Part 1”

The emotion and style attached to this song remind me of “The Last Song” from X-Japan. If anyone of you interesting, here it is.
After “The Last Song”, I hardly find any song could capture my heart every time I listen in the same way. Without knowing the lyric, you can feel the clenching and twisting in your stomach. You feel as if you want to cry but your tears fail to fall out of your eyes.

With only a few piano cords + Yuchun’s fierce rap + heavenly voice of Junsu and Jaejoong, obviously this combination is full with surprise and make this 8 minutes long song worth your listening. The censor of the name in the rap, the slightly crack of Junsu’s part make this song raw and real. The emotional that they put into this song is amazing. The chorus is supposed to be something repeative but then each chorus is different from each other with how Jaejoong and Junsu switched their part and changed some note here and there. Some part make you sad, some part is absurdly beautiful, some part make you depressed, some part bring you to the land you want to be.
The lyric is so direct, raw and also full of controversy. People might said this is an excuse but I think the artist suppose to have their freedom to express their feeling. That’s why I don’t agree with some review that said the lyric of this song is too much, too personal. Some might say they sing too much, talk too much, but various powerful feeling they put in this song is undeniable.
This song is obviously a lament…missing, longing, hurting, sobbing, frustrating,…and then calm…goodbye and welcome to the new world where they can be free.

 

 

I don’t think this album is perfect. There are still flaws in term of vocal design. (YC and JJ’s in Nine) However, this is a very very good start to show the world what they can do. I’m pretty sure that JYJ fans size would be smaller than when they were a part of TVXQ but these 3 guys have enough potential to stay in entertainment industry where the real artist is supported by casual fans. Fans who appreciate and judge them by their works, singing, composing, acting rather than their personality and personal lives. I won’t say that they would definitely be able to do that completely, but they seem to be on the right road for that.
Hopefully, they can survive in the music industry because these 3 guys are really talent and their passionate in music is real.
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I just become sth like a troll last night. lol.

I just become sth like a troll last night. lol.

I stepped in a Homin’s fan blog out of curiousity since someone in my T-list tweeted that link. I thought it might be a good idea to post sth there…but obviously, it’s not.

I’m tired to type in english although I should be rational enough to explain to her again. I won’t. Because, yes, it’s obviously wasted my time. Maybe I’m a troll. I don’t like those illogic, irrational reasons so I stated my disagreement…but I should learn to ignore them. (Plus, sometimes I just want to rant and won’t be logical and rational as I try to do. lol)

Funny how people cut and summarized their idols interviews to make sure that their idols look good. Is that really the way fandom should do? Sometimes, staying positive could mean being ignorance.

I might disagree with some JYJ actions and fans. I just learn to accept that and move on supporting JYJ.

Why can’t fans just accept their flaw and continue supporting them? (By this, I mean both HM fans and JYJ fans.) It’s like you want to support them so you have to insist to yourself that they have least flaw possible. And sometimes, people doing so by discredit the others. I accept JYJ flaws, (they do have many!) and move on support their music. But yes, I want to clear their rumours and I won’t be tolerant to those antis who tried to put JYJ down or bias fans who try to discredit site like TheJYJFiles too. I saw some fans tried to discredit TheJYJFiles by comparing TheJYJFiles with that famous anti-jyj blog, as if TheJYJFiles is anti-HM. *roll eyes*

Being realistic is the beginning of Being positive.

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Super emotional post about twitter incident

This post is not sugarcoated. It’s full of emotional…because this is my personal blog.
On the 6th of January….these are Junsu’s tweets.
(Junsu) Till now, I believed that.. it wasn’t true.. it couldn’t be true.. We all used to share the same thought that.. they are the enemy of all five of us ..It seems they were not the enemy to all of us.. To show thanks.. to that which we all once considered to be our enemy… Many things must have happened during the times we were not together.. I feel so worn out; (5:27pm KST)
(Junsu) I’m trying to think.. hear.. and see only good things.. I’ve been doing that till now.. But I’m finding that so hard to do today.. Though we are apart ..This isn’t right hyung… We used to share the same thoughts.. Why.. Why.. Why are you doing this.. (5:30pm KST)
(Junsu) I must love everything.. I must embrace everything.. I must embrace all of that.. That’s what I should do.. ^^ (6:40pm KST)
(Junsu) On our beautiful dream, all this is, is an ordeal we must face right now.. When the flowers fall, we will start again.. start again.. start again.. again.. we have to (6:42pm KST)
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I actually don’t fond of the way Junsu wrote at first because it would definitely create more controversy. But something must be really hard to believe to make Junsu tweet like that. The fact that Junsu was the one who wrote those tweet are probably the most surprising and depressing at the same time. If it was Jaejoong or Yoochun who wrote this one, people might just think that they become emotional once in a while and don’t really pay much attention of what’s going on. (I even shed some tears because Junsu’s tweet.) 
The fact that “hyung” in Junsu’s tweet cannot be anyone else…Sometimes fans try hard to blind their own rational mind…. how could people think that he didn’t refer to Yunho? Out of “all five of us”, Junsu only called “Yunho-hyung” and “Jaejoong-hyung”. If you don’t think that hyung means Yunho, then Jaejoong? Ok, maybe he referred to they dreamt of having a great Kitty family together but JJ chooses JiJi and raise JiJi alone? (Such a lame joke!)
Then today, SM artists just come out…
“I can’t just let this pass.. ..Little brother, this is really not right…. Who’s at blame here? Don’t pretend to be upset. Who do you think is really hurt….? You’re so ungrateful, how could you do this…?” Sim Jaewon via twitter/ retweet by BoA
“I’m leaving this message because I think they went too far.. Can they not remember in the old days when we comforted each other and promised to work hard.. We who were initially just happy to practice.. Did they lose us who dreamed of being on television once…I hope they look in the mirror and think again whether they lost their original aspiration~ I understood them when they hurt us by leaving without a word to find their own path and I forgave them because of my affection for all the times we had together.. I don’t know why they are making those who’s silently working hard look like fools by saying all those astonishing lies and hurtful words.” Sungmin (Super Junior) via cyworld
“Enemy ( 敵 ) : relative wanted to fight / hurt the others. Know some guilt (背恩忘德) : Showing kindness, but at the end it’s betrayed. In other words, hurting / fighting your own relative means betraying them, which are my family.” Shindong (Super Junior) via twitter Source: Newsen via Daum Media, Shindong’s Twitter
 “I’m getting so frustrated, so I’m going to write a few things…
No matter how I see it, this isn’t right.
How could you repay kindness with ingratitude…
Do you really not feel who they are and how much they’ve cared for you?
It’s inevitable for everyone to change, but I’m getting scared now.
They started this because they liked music and the stage, but where has that all disappeared to now?
It’s upsetting, truly…” Trax’s Jungmo via mini-homepage  (Source + Photos: Newsen via Daum (1) (2), Asia Economy via Daum Credits: Allkpop)
Sim Jaewon, BoA, Shindong, Sungmin, Jungmo….If you called any of JYJ a liar, ingratitude, why don’t you just come up and speak your truth instead of just said that through your social network?
People are talking about freedom of speech, how Sim Jaewon, BoA, Sungmin SJ, Shindong SJ shouldn’t be bashed because if we said Junsu can let out his emotional in his twitter, what the SM artists are doing is just the same.
BUT …. BEING EMOTIONAL =/= INTENTIONALLY INSULTING, BASHING
Oh…people keep saying their SM IDOLS don’t have much freedom of speech to support their friends…since when they have so much more freedom of speech to insult their old friends????
Then, people said the one who talked shit about Junsu probably know more than anyone out here, so they want to protect Homin. Some fans said, these artists might know the truth, well which side ot the truth?

SM truth? JYJ truth? ot the real truth?

One thing for sure, they are knowing more and more about SM sides, what SM said…have they even contact any of JYJ after the lawsuit? Or even before the lawsuit? Do they even know anything at all? I mean, yes, they are in SM, so maybe they just know whatever SM wants them to know.

“Don’t pretend to be upset”   Who is this guy? Why he was so sure that JS pretended to be upset? I’m sure that everyone feel upset about the situation and that also includes Junsu!!!
Sorry, Sungmin and Shindong, even your own member didn’t have enough confident to tell you that he wanted to commit suicide and he wanted to come out of your family. I can see it clearly why.
Sorry I don’t even think they protect HoMin by doing this. It must be that they are either stupid or so naive to think that by ganging up Junsu, people would believe that your family is a good and great one. Maybe only delusional SM family stans would believe that. Their behaviour just send the wrong signal to HoMin and fans won’t feel like support them anymore.
Those words are actually the same content and pattern…

Asking why JYJ don’t remember the good old day? >> why don’t be more grateful? >> LIAR.

I’m glad JYJ have friends like Ayumi Hamazaki, Naoya AAA, those celebrities in Japan who still with them even JYJ were cut out of Japan, rather than SM Friends who could bite their neck to save their own lovely family.
For me, all SM Family bond with JYJ end when they just sit back and watch the owner of their family put so much effort to destroy JYJ future in Korea while all SM town artists enjoy better contracts that is a benefit from JYJ’s lawsuit and Cassiopeia’s movement. 
JYJ should feel betrayed and shouldn’t care with any so-called friends who have stayed still in silent while SM tried to destroy JYJ’s career in Korea. (Funny how JYJ just thanks to BoA for their advancement in Japan and then, she retweet that quote which include “You’re so ungrateful”)
Sorry, I don’t think see any of SM artists really support Yunho or Changmin by doing this. Those artists are just protecting their safe haven aka their lovely SM Family reputation.

There are tons of ways to protect Yunho and Changmin that doesn’t involve with intentionally bashing Junsu.

(And to some fans who said they’re glad HM got support from SM Town’s friend who bash Junsu. Don’t even say you love 5 members then. Don’t be such a hypocrite

And sorry, I still don’t believe that Junsu is a traitor or a liar.

 

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